Watch Jason Kelce Leave Kylie Kelce in Shock After Classifying This Taylor Swift Collaborator as ‘Hip-Hop’

Jason Kelce might be gaining one of music’s biggest stars as a sister-in-law, but that doesn’t mean he’s any the wiser to the boundaries of basic musical genres. In a hilarious moment on Kylie Kelce’s Not Gonna Lie podcast posted Thursday (Oct. 30), the retired Philadelphia Eagles center left his wife absolutely perplexed when he classified a certain pop star — who’s previously collaborated with Taylor Swift — as a “hip-hop” artist.

While sitting together on a couch dressed in Frozen-themed Halloween costumes (Kylie showed up as Olaf the snowman, while Jason channeled Kristoff), the couple poked fun at their own lack of pop-culture knowledge by facing off in a round of trivia. When the football player challenged the podcaster to name one of the three artists who are set to headline Coachella next year, he provided the following hint: “I would say the two that I know are hip-hop artists.”

“You have guaranteed heard multiple [songs by] 2 and 3,” Jason continued, trying to help Kylie out. “One of them is on a new song with Taylor.”

The latter clue led Kylie to correctly guess Sabrina Carpenter, who guested on Swift’s The Life of a Showgirl title track released earlier in October. The two-time Grammy winner will split the Coachella billing with Justin Bieber and Karol G — none of whom are known for making hip-hop music — in 2026.

A puzzled Kylie then asked, “Did you count [Carpenter] in hip-hop?”

“I mean, what else would she be?” Jason replied, adding that pop and hip-hop are “the same thing these days” when the former field hockey player informed him of Carpenter’s actual genre.

Looking aghast, Kylie couldn’t help but go silent with a baffled expression for several seconds.

Though Jason is right that hip-hop is very popular, Carpenter has never once charted on any of Billboard‘s rap, R&B or hip-hop rankings. She has, however, scored multiple hits on the Billboard Hot 100 — including No. 1 singles “Please Please Please” and “Manchild” — as well as several pop, dance and country charts.

But, who knows? Perhaps Carpenter will make the pivot to hip-hop at some point, and if nothing else, Jason’s classification of her music may very well make for a hilarious conversation when their paths presumably cross at Travis Kelce’s future wedding to Swift.

Watch the full interaction on the latest episode of Not Gonna Lie above.