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Karen Page has more than enough reasons to leave Hell’s Kitchen behind that nobody could blame her for packing a bag. Getting close to Matt Murdock has hardly made her life safer, and her own pursuit of the truth has put her in the path of people who can make someone disappear. But Deborah Ann Woll has made Karen’s determination so compelling that watching her choose to stay involved can be just as satisfying as seeing Daredevil win a fight.
That makes her eventual goodbye one of the harder parts of Daredevil: Born Again coming to an end. Karen has a life beyond whatever is happening with Matt, and following her through it has been a substantial part of the show’s appeal. After more than a decade with the character, there is a lot riding on where the series chooses to leave her. During an interview with Collider’s Maggie Lovitt for her new thriller The Cycle, Woll was asked how longtime fans would feel about Karen’s ending. “Gosh, that's such a hard question to answer without spoiling too much,” she admitted. The actress then discussed the years she has spent with the character:
“Ultimately, I think, you know, this has been 12 years of my life and of Karen's life. And I don't think any of their stories end, right? So my hope would be that by the end of this, you feel like there's a logical conclusion to the arc that she's been on, which is what is it to be a hero, right?”
Collider Exclusive · 8 Questions · 2 Minutes Which MCU Villain Do You Align With? Killmonger · Namor · Zemo · Thanos
Eight honest questions about how you actually are: what you do about something unfair, how long you will wait for what you want, who you are really loyal to, how easily you let a thing go. Answer them and we will tell you which one of these four you have more in common with than you would like. Every one of them thinks they are the reasonable person in the room.
🐆Killmonger(Black Panther)
🔱Namor(Wakanda Forever)
🎭Zemo(Civil War)
🧤Thanos(Infinity War)
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01
How do you react to something you think is unfair? All four of these men started here.
ALoudly, and I want the whole thing torn down. BI protect whoever it hurt, first and fast. CI say nothing, and I start planning. DI look for why it keeps happening at all.
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02
How long will you wait for something you want? Patience separates these four more than anything else.
ANot long, since I have waited long enough already. BAs long as my people stay safe meanwhile. CYears, if years are what it takes. DTime does not really come into it.
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03
Who are you actually loyal to? Answer for the real one, not the polite one.
AThe people nobody else turned up for. BMy own, and nobody outside that. COne person, and they are already gone. DAn idea, rather than any group of people.
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04
How do you win an argument? Everybody has one method and uses it every time.
ABy being angrier and more right. BBy making the cost of disagreeing obvious. CBy letting them talk until they trip over something. DBy explaining it until they run out of objections.
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05
How easily do you let something go? This is the question that makes villains out of people.
AI do not, and I can tell you exactly why. BOnce whoever caused it stops being a threat. CWhen the balance is settled, and not before. DInstantly, because it was never personal.
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06
What do you think about breaking the rules? Nobody on this list has ever felt guilty about it.
AThey were written by whoever benefits from them. BMine apply, and theirs do not reach me. CRules are a tool, and I use them precisely. DThe rule matters far less than the outcome.
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07
What do people say about you behind your back? You already know which one it is.
AThat I am far too angry about it. BThat I put my own above everybody else. CThat I am much quieter than I should be. DThat I am certain in a way that unnerves them.
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08
What would you do with real power? Eight questions in, this is the one that picks your villain.
AGive it to the people it was kept from. BUse it to shut my own people off from the world. CUse it to make the guilty face what they did. DUse it to fix the thing everybody refuses to face.
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The Case Is Made You Align With…
Four villains, and four arguments the films were honest enough to actually let them make. Here is the one you lean towards, the part of it that holds up, and the exact point where it stops holding up.
Erik Killmonger
You align with the one who was right about the problem and wrong about the solution. Killmonger is the most persuasive villain Marvel has produced because the film never pretends his anger came from nowhere.
- You notice who was abandoned and you cannot let it go, which is a moral instinct before it is anything else.
- His argument lands because Wakanda really did watch and do nothing, and the film makes T'Challa admit it out loud.
- Where it breaks is the method, since a man who was failed by power decided the answer was to hold more of it.
- Michael B. Jordan plays him as somebody performing certainty over grief, which is why the last scene of that film still works.
Namor
You align with the protector, which is the most understandable and most dangerous position on this list. Namor is not chasing power or revenge, he is doing whatever keeps his people hidden, and he has been doing it for centuries.
- Your loyalty has a hard border around it, and everything inside that border matters far more to you than anything outside it.
- Talokan is the best realised world Marvel has built since Wakanda, and the film makes you understand exactly what he is guarding.
- His logic is airtight right up until it requires somebody else's people to pay for his people's safety.
- He would rather be feared by the surface world forever than trust it once, and history has given him reasons.
Helmut Zemo
You align with the patient one, the only man on this list with no powers, no army and no hurry. Zemo lost his family in Sokovia and then spent years working out that you do not fight the Avengers, you introduce them to each other's secrets.
- You go quiet when you are hurt, and the quiet is where the thinking happens.
- Zemo is the only MCU villain who completely won, and he did it with a notebook, a plan and a great deal of self control.
- His grief is real, and the film is careful never to let you forget that he started as an ordinary man with a family.
- Where it fails is the cost, since taking apart the people who hurt him meant hurting a great many people who did not.
Thanos
You align with the one who decided the answer was arithmetic. Thanos is not angry and not grieving in any way he will admit to, he simply reached a conclusion and never once revisited it, which is precisely what makes him frightening.
- You are capable of holding a position that costs you everything, and you would call that conviction rather than stubbornness.
- Infinity War works because it is structured as his film, with a goal, a journey and a sacrifice, and the heroes are the obstacle.
- The flaw in the plan is not the cruelty, it is that he never seriously considered a single alternative to it.
- Josh Brolin plays him tired rather than triumphant, which is the choice that turned a purple giant into a real character.
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Deborah Ann Woll Looks Beyond Karen Page’s Final Scene
Image via Disney+/Marvel Studios /Courtesy Everett CollectionThe question of heroism is particularly relevant for a character whose place in this world has never depended on having special abilities. Karen’s investigations have repeatedly brought her into conflict with people capable of destroying lives, and knowing that has not always been enough to make her walk away. Woll continued her answer by discussing what she hopes viewers can imagine beyond Karen’s final appearance:
“And can you be your own hero on some level? And also that she's going to step off into a new adventure, right? When the screen fades to black, she's just gonna go stop another kingpin, right? That this is just the beginning of a new chapter on some level.”
That's a fitting image for Karen, who has never had much luck keeping a safe distance from a dangerous story. Her determination has given her an active role in the fight for Hell’s Kitchen, even when she is surrounded by people better equipped to survive its violence. It also gives her a future worth wondering about after the audience has to leave her behind. Woll kept the circumstances of Karen’s ending under wraps, leaving fans to discover how that final chapter unfolds. Her answer offers no names, final confrontations, or details about where Karen might end up. For now, the possibility of another Kingpin waiting to be taken down is a fitting thought to carry into her farewell.
You can see Woll next in The Cycle when it arrives this week on AMC+ and Shudder on October 23. Stay tuned at Collider for Lovitt's full conversation with Woll.
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